George Wanless

George Wanless

Male 1796 - 1882  (85 years)

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  • Name George Wanless 
    Born 11 Jun 1796  Chatton, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Christened 6 Jul 1796  United Presbyterian Church, Wooler, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    Military Enlistment 1st January 1821  Berwick, Berwick, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Royal Artillery First Battalion 
    Residence 1822  Barbados, West Indies Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1825  Woolwich, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1828  Leith Fort, Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    IMMI 1830  Montreal, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • The 3 Aug 1830 removal order for his wife states he is a soldier in America. He likely was not in Wooler for the burial of daughter Margaret in late July 1830 or the birth a few months later of daughter Eleanor, but he and Isabella must've been together, probably in Wooler, in about March 1830 to conceive Eleanor, so George was probably sent to Canada between March and August of 1830.
    Residence Aug 1830  America (probably Montreal, Quebec, Canada) Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    • The 3 Aug 1830 removal order for his wife states he is a soldier in America.
    Residence 1833-1835  Montreal, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    • was in military service at Montreal Garrison when his sons George & Wm were born
    Residence 1839  Montreal, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Wanless, Geoe
      Place Montreal Year 1839
      Primary immigrant Wanless, Geoe
      Permanent entry number 7222922
      Accession number 3614083
      Source publication code 1416.5
      Source publication page number 284
      Source publication CROWDER, NORMAN K. British Army Pensioners Abroad, 1772-1899. Baltimore, MD Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1995. 351p.
      Source annotation Date of pension award and place of residence abroad. Extracted from registers W.O. 120, Volumes 35, 69, and 70, located at the Public Record Office in Kew, England. Also available on microfilm at Canada's National Archives at Ottawa, Ontario, MG 13, W.O. 120 microfilm B-5705 for volume 35, microfilms B-5713 and B-5714 for volume 69, and microfilm B-5714 for volume 70. Data also appears at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, on microfilm 854,664 for volume 35, 852,021 for volume 69, and 852,022 for volume 70. Name of military unit at the time of pension award, and volume and page number of the original record are also provided. Date and place of death may also be provided.
      Source Passenger and Immigration Lists Index (genealogy.com)
    Place 1 Jan 1839  Brantford, Brant Co, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • admitted to military hospital of the 73rd Infantry in Brantford on 1 Jan 1839. Also, the Sept 1839 military papers regarding his discharge note that he did not appear in Woolwich, Kent and was in Canada at the time.
    Military Service 1 Jan 1821-8 Oct 1839 
    Royal Artillery, 1st Battalion 
    • He served in the West Indies 1 yr & 1 month, Canada for 9 yrs & 4 mos, and the remainder at home (order of locations isn't clear at this point; it seems like the Canada bit must've been the last 9 yrs, since he was injured & retired in Canada, so perhaps he came to Canada about 1830?)

      From George's military discharge papers:
      George was born in the parish of Chattan in Northumberland. joined the Royal Artillery First Battalion on the 1st January 1821 as a Gunner & Driver. He mustered into the Regiment of Artillery at Berwick in Co. Berwick on 28 Feb 1821, at the age of 22. His occupation before joining was a Shoemaker. He served one year & one month in the West Indies, Canada Nine years & four months, & the remainder at home.
      He was admitted into the Military hospital in Brantford, Canada on the 1st January 1839 having dislocated his right thumb & injured his left shoulder. He had fallen on some ice while carrying a bundle of wood & when he slipped a splinter of wood stuck in between his index finger & thumb. A poultice of Chamomile was placed & bandaged onto the wound, but after two weeks it began to smell, so the surgeon took the bandage off & the thumb just fell away causing a massive hemmorhage, so it was decided to remove the bone and bits of thumb which were still there. He was discharged as medically unfit for service on the 8th October 1839 aged 40 years. He was also unable to perform his usual motions with his left arm due to a fall on his shoulder at drill last summer. He was mentioned in the good service book for his excellent service and good character. His discharge was discussed on the 18th September 1839 in Woolwich, Kent (now east London).
    Residence 1840-1843  Pittsburgh Twp, Frontenac Co, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • TENTATIVE - we think George & Isabella may have lived here because 3 of their children (Thomas, Isabella, Elizabeth) lived here when they married during this period.
    Witness Aug 1847  Norton Creek, Beauharnois Seignory/County, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    at birth of (grandson) George James Wanless 
    Census 1851  Beach Ridge (Beechridge), Williamstown, Beauharnois Co, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • folio 27 & 28 - July 1851
      George Wenless cordonnier, Engleterre, married, Presbyterian, age 54, no non-family members in house, maison en pieces [construction type]
      Isabella Wenless age 53, Engleterre, married, Presbyterian [as is rest of family]
      James 13, Canada
      John 13, Canada
      William 16, Canada
      George 18, Canada
      -- Note cordonnier means shoemaker and Engleterre means b. England.

      Also listed in the agricultural census at the end of the population schedule:
      George Wanless "partie" (shares a lot?) with dittos after all the numbers for his prior neighbor William Cross (lists numbers of arpens in agriculture, pasturage, woodland, more stuff in French...)
    RELI 1851 
    Presbyterian 
    Witness Jan 1854  Edwardstown, Beauharnois Seignory/County, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    christening of (grandson) John Creelman Wanless 
    Census 1861  Chateauguay, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • George Wanless, 64, shoemaker, b. England, married in 1819
      Isabella Kay, 64, b. England, married in 1819
      James Wanless, 22, b. U.C. [Ontario], married in 1859
      Marguerite Isro, 22, b. L.C. [Quebec], married in 1859
      Isabella C. Wanless, 2, L.C.
      Isabella K.(?) Bellie [Baillie], 11, L.C.
      2 males, 4 females all in one family, in a log house
    Residence May 1863  Williamstown, Beauharnois Seignory/County, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Census 1871  Ste-Jean-Chrysostome, Chateauguay, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • George Wanless, 76, b. England, Roman Catholic, English origins, farmer, married
      Johanna, 56, b. Ireland, Irish origins, married
      Maryann, 23, b. QUE
      Bridgit, 22, b. QUE
      Johanna, 18, b. QUE
      -- the 3 girls must be Johanna Daley's children from her previous marriage
    Census 1881  Ste-Jean-Chrysostome, Chateauguay, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    • George WINLESS M Male Scottish 85 Angleterre Cultivateur Catholique
      Johanna WINLESS M Female Irish 66 Ireland Catholique
    Occupation shoemaker 
    Died 10 May 1882  (probably) Norton Creek, Beauharnois Co, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Buried Abt 10 May 1882  Ste-Jean-Chrysostome, Chateauguay, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • We assume George's parents (named as Thomas & Margaret in his baptism) were Thomas Wanless & Margaret Allen because we know of no other Thomas/Margaret pair in the area at the time. This assumption could of course be wrong. Wooler is not particularly close to Spittal where their other children were born.

      We assume this is the same George who married Isabella Kay because his military discharge papers say he was born at Chatton, NBL, and we can find no other George Wanless who was born at Chatton in this time frame. The Chatton and Wooler Anglican parish registers show no birth 1795-99 for George; the Presbyterian baptism is the only match. A 1796 baptism makes him about 3 yrs older than the military discharge papers say, but it does match his age in the 1881 census.

      Naming pattern:
      Thomas Kay - both of their fathers are Thomas, and Thomas Kay is the mother's father
      Isabella - mother or mother's mother
      Elizabeth - ??
      Margaret - father's mother
      Eleanor - should be a grandmother of either George or Isabella
      George J - father (is his middle name James?)
      William -
      John -
      James -

      Marriage not in Wooler PR. Wooler not covered by Bell's Marriage Index. In the PR, a note from the vicar says lots of people go to Coldstream, BER to be privately married to avoid publication of banns. Since George enlisted in the Army in Berwick, they may have married there.

      A George Wanless witnessed (his daughter) Eleanor's wedding in Georgetown/Norton Ck in 1850, but don't know if this was him or his son.

      Not listed in 1854 list of concessioners (renters) of Beauharnois & Chateauguay. Son Thomas was listed at Norton Ck.

      Note re Seigniory of Beauharnois: "In the old french regime in Quebec, a seigniory was a tract of land granted by the crown, usually as a reward for services rendered to the Crown or to a friend of the authorities. It was expected and usually a condition of the grant, that the seignior would encourage settlement on the lands in his seigniory. In general, the land was not sold but rather leased in perpetuity and each settler had to pay an annual "rentes et cens" consisting of money and/or produce. The seigniorial system was abolished in Quebec in the mid 1850s and the settlers then had the opportunity to purchase the land outright. "

      Seigniory of Beauharnois
      A large, trapazoidal shaped tract of land, 18mi (28.8km) on a side, on the south shore of the St-Lawrence River. It was bounded on the northeast by the Seigniories of Châteauguay and Lasalle, on the southeast by the Township of Hemmingford, on the southwest by the original Townships of Godmanchester and Hinchinbrooke and on the northwest by the St-Lawrence River and east end of Lake St-Francis. It was first granted in 1729 by the Louis XV to Sieur Charles, Marquis de Beauharnois and his brother Claude de Beauharnois de Beaumont, after whom the seigniory was eventually named. Its first name was Villechauve. In 1795, it was sold to Alexander Ellice and renamed Annfield in honour of his wife, Ann. Most of the early settlements were made during the Ellice family regime. The Ellice family owned it until 1840 when it was sold to the London Land Company. In 1851, it was repossessed by the Ellice family. In 1854, the seigniorial title was abolished by government decree and the Ellice's compensated for their loss although they continued to own considerably holdings in the area. The Seigniory became part of the Counties of Beauharnois and Châteauguay.

      In the 1861 map here:
      http://www.rootsweb.com/~qchuntin/map3.jpg
      it looks like Jamestown, south Georgetown, Williamstown, Russelltown, Edwardstown are all in Chateaugay Township of Huntingdon county just north of the border of Hemmingford Twp

      An entry in the St. Chrysostome register (in French) seems to indicate that he converted to Catholicism in 1865, a year after he married Johanna Daley, who was Catholic.
    Person ID I70  26: George Wanless & Isabella Kay | top of tree
    Last Modified 5 Feb 2017 

    Father Thomas Wanless,   b. Est 1742-1762, (Probably) Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1841, (Probably) Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 79 years) 
    Mother Margaret Allen,   b. Abt 1762, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Sep 1848, Alnwick, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 86 years) 
    Married 20 May 1792  Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Family ID F1142  Group Sheet

    Family 1 Isabella Kay,   b. 1797, Wooler, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 May 1863, Williamstown, Beauharnois Seignory/County, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years) 
    Married Est 1818-1819  Northumberland, England or Berwick, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Thomas Kay Wanless,   b. 29 Jun 1820, Wooler, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Aug 1889, Chatham, Kent Co, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years)
     2. Isabella Wanless,   b. 11 Aug 1822, Barbados, West Indies Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Oct 1900, Napanee, Lennox Co, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 78 years)
     3. Elizabeth Wanless,   b. 2 Apr 1825, Woolwich, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 May 1891, Chatham, Kent Co, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years)
     4. Margaret Wanless,   b. Abt Apr 1828, Leith Fort, Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Jul 1830, Wooler, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 2 years)
     5. Eleanor Wanless,   b. 3 Dec 1830, Wooler, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 Apr 1856, Montreal, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 25 years)
     6. George J. Wanless,   b. 7 Aug 1833, Ile Sainte-Hélène, Montreal, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1914, Bay City, Bay Co, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years)
     7. William Wanless,   b. 28 Sep 1835, Montreal, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1913, (probably) Port Huron, St. Clair Co, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)
     8. John Wanless,   b. Jan 1838, Canada (probably Montreal, Quebec) Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Aug 1902, Bay City, Bay Co, Michigan, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 64 years)
     9. James Wanless,   b. 21 Dec 1839, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1901-1911, Chatham, Kent Co, Ontario, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 71 years)
    Last Modified 3 Jul 2003 
    Family ID F19  Group Sheet

    Family 2 Johanna Daley,   b. Abt 1815, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Dec 1891, Norton Creek, Beauharnois Co, Quebec, Canada Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 76 years) 
    Married 30 Apr 1864  Ste-Jean-Chrysostome, Chateauguay, Quebec Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Last Modified 16 May 2011 
    Family ID F39  Group Sheet

  • Documents
    Military discharge papers of George Wandless (1796-1882) of Chatton, Northumberland and southern Quebec, Canada
    Military discharge papers of George Wandless (1796-1882) of Chatton, Northumberland and southern Quebec, Canada
    Details George's military service locations and describes in detail the accident that caused his discharge in 1839

  • Sources 
    1. [S32] Military service papers.
      George was described as "aged 40 and 3 months" at his discharge hearing, which was Sept or Oct 1839. Same papers say he came into the military in Feb 1821 at the age of 22, which is consistent. The papers say only that he was born in Northumberland, not which parish or town.

    2. [S62] Parish register.
      George s/o Thomas and Margaret Wandles, born in the parish of Chatton, bap 6 Jul 1796

    3. [S23] Parish register, BURIAL REC OF DAU MARGARET (Reliability: 3).

    4. [S22] Christening record, SONS GEORGE & WILLIAM (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S24] Death record, OF WIFE ISABELLA (Reliability: 3).

    6. [S35] Census, 1881, Canada, DIST. 71, SUBDIST. A, PG 139, HOUSEHOLD 702 (FHL 1375842) (Reliability: 3).

    7. [S23] Parish register, DROUIN COLLECTION AT ANCESTRY.COM (Reliability: 3).
      St. Chrysostome church
      [record is in French] 10 May 1882 George Wandless, farmer, husband of Johanna Dailey, age quatre-vingt six [86]...was buried in the presence of Michael Cross, Peter Rooney, farmers of the same parish [I can't read most of this]

    8. [S62] Parish register.
      20 May 1792 Thomas Wanlas of Ancroft = Margaret Allen, x, of Ancroft.
      Witnesses: Anthony Lambert and David Allen

    9. [S8] Marriage record, Quebec Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1967 (Reliability: 3).
      30 Apr 1864 ...authorizing the marriage of a Protestant with a Catholic...George Wanless, vief majeur de [widower of] Elizabeth Key, married Johanna Daly, widow of Thomas Lawless. by Rev. William T. Darcy, priest. Witnessed by Amable Dencan, G. Wandless, L.L. Pominville, for the Cure'
      [record is in French; I've only translated what I think are the important parts]