Ralph(?) Wanless

Ralph(?) Wanless

Male 1720-1730 - Bef 1772  (42 years)

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  • Name Ralph(?) Wanless 
    Born 1720-1730  (probably) Newcastle, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Died Bef 1772  (probably) Newcastle, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Notes 
    • First name might not be Ralph. The only evidence is the fact that the presumably eldest son is named Ralph, and there is a death record in Newcastle in the right timeframe for a Ralph and baptism records for children with the right names to a Ralph.

      Oral (and originally, written in the form of letters which no longer exist) history, per the Lillian Craig book, says Ralph had 2 sons by a first wife, Martin & Thomas. Then he married Margaret. Martin & his brother Thomas stayed in England when their stepmother Margaret went to America with her children after their father's death. Note, however, that if the 1749 marriage of Ralph & Margaret IS these folks, then she was the mother of Thomas and Martin also - perhaps they just stayed in England because they were already adults and had established lives for themselves. There are no earlier marriages for Ralph in the IGI that make sense as to time & place.

      POSSIBILITIES:
      Burial in Newcastle, St. Andrew's Parish, June 1, 1770 of Ralph Wandless. [St. Andrew's Parish Register, supplied by Evelyn Huerd]

      Christening possibilities: Ralph chr. 19 Sep 1731 Gosforth, NBL, England, father Ralph Wanlass
      Ralph chr. 26 May 1723 Gosforth, NBL, England; father Thomas Wanlass
      Ralph chr. 10 Nov 1722 Newcastle All Saints, father Luke Wanless
      several other possibilities in Durham. Note that Gosforth parish is adjacent to Newcastle All Saints, St Andrew, and St John. Note that the name Luke is not carried down the family line while the names Thomas and Ralph are. If this family followed Scottish naming patterns, the first son was named for Ralph's father, i.e. Thomas. This seems most likely because then Ralph would've been about 26 at marriage, whereas Ralph of Ralph above would've been only 18 at marriage. Also, there were children born to a Ralph of Gosforth in the 1720s, and this Ralph might be the brother of Thomas, explaining why Thomas named his son Ralph.

      You would think these children were all born to the same Ralph (Newcastle St Andrew's parish registers):
      4th March 1749/50 Thomas son of Ralph Wanless Yeoman
      29th March 1752 Mary daughter of Ralph Wanless Yeoman
      7th April 1754 Dorothy daughter of Ralph Wanless Yeoman

      You'd also think these children share a father - Heworth, Durham parish registers:
      1761 Stephen son to Ralph Wanless Jan 25th
      1763 Mary dau. to Ralph Wanless May 1st
      Heworth is just across the river from Newcastle.

      General notes:
      Yeoman: The term has changed meaning over time. In the 13th-15th centuries it was applied to a Knight's servants. Under the Tudors the term was widened to include the prosperous working farmers below the rank of the gentry. They worked their own land, but did not have to be freeholders. The wealth which was needed for a farmer to be judged a Yeoman by his neighbours varied from region to region and over time. During the 18th-19th centuries both Yeoman and Husbandman were gradually abandoned in favour of the all embracing 'Farmer'. [Oxford Companion to Local & Family History]

      The current definition of 'Freehold' is that you hold property (land) for
      life, or that the land belongs to you, as opposed to being a tenant and paying rent. Men aged between 21 - 70 with freehold property worth at least 40 shillings a year could vote at local & parliamentary elections. Freeholders were also eligible for jury service and (from 1696) lists were drawn up for each parish. From 1832 addresses were also included. [Heather Faulkes email 9/11/97]
    Person ID I57  1: Ralph(?) & Margaret Wandless or Wanless | top of tree
    Last Modified 5 Sep 2011 

    Family ID F1443  Group Sheet

    Family 1 (Unknown) (Unknown),   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Bef 1754  Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Thomas Wanless,   b. 1750, Newcastle, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     2. Martin Wanless,   b. 1752, St. Andrew's, Newcastle, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aug 1824, South Shields, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 72 years)
    Last Modified 22 Mar 2001 
    Family ID F1104  Group Sheet

    Family 2 Margaret (Unknown),   b. 1720-1730,   d. 1807, Deerfield, Augusta Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years) 
    Married Bef 1756  Newcastle, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Children 
     1. Ralph Wanless,   b. 28 Mar 1756, Newcastle, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Jul 1842, Pocahontas Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years)
     2. Stephen Wanless,   b. 1750-1760, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Sep 1826, Bath Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years)
     3. Margaret Wanless,   b. Abt 1759, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Nov 1823, Augusta Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 64 years)
     4. Mary Wanless,   b. Bef 1765, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Between 1810 and 1820, Augusta Co, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 45 years)
    Histories
    Biography of Margaret Wandless by Lillian Kennerly Craig
    Biography of Margaret Wandless by Lillian Kennerly Craig
    Source: Reverend John Craig 1709-1774 by Margaret's descendant Lillian Kennerly Craig; describes the family history from Newcastle, England to Augusta Co, Virginia; published 1963 (4 pages)
    Last Modified 22 Mar 2001 
    Family ID F12  Group Sheet

  • Sources 
    1. [S60] Calculation of birth, marriage, or death date., CALCULATED GUESS BASED ON POSSIBLE MARRIAGE IN 1749 AND SON RALPH B. 1756. (Reliability: 0).

    2. [S6] Parish Register - St. Andrews, Newcastle, (LDS Church), THIS MAY BE HIM: BURIAL IN NEWCASTLE, ST. ANDREW'S PARISH, JUNE 1, 1770 OF RALPH WANDLESS. (Reliability: 0).

    3. [S6] Parish Register - St. Andrews, Newcastle, (LDS Church), POSSIBLE MARRIAGE (Reliability: 0).
      : 1749 June 4, Ralph Wanlass and Margt Wylam, St Andrews Parish, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England. [Of course this doesn't explain her relationship, if any, to Thomas Adams, unless she first married a Wylam, of which we can find no record in VA, Northumberland, Durham, or Essex, to date.]