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Thomas Wanless
Male 1813 - Yes, date unknown

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  • Birth  Abt 1813  Wallsend, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Census  1841  Holywell, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • West Holywell Colliery, Holywell (pg 13), Earsdon
      Thomas Wandless 25 coal miner, all b. in county
      Isabell 20
      Thomas 4
      Peter 3
      Elizabeth 1
      Ralph Farrow 20 coalminer
    Census  1851  Holywell, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • HO 107/2412; f 170;p 27 West Holywell Colliery, NBL.
      Thomas WANDLESS Hd M 38 Coal Miner NBL Wallsend
      Isabella WANDLESS Wi M 34 ---------- DUR Hebbron
      Peter WANDLESS So - 13 ---------- NBL Earsdon
      Elizabeth WANDLESS Da - 11 ---------- NBL Earsdon
      Christopher WANDLESS So - 9 ---------- NBL Earsdon
      Thomas WANDLESS So - 7 ---------- NBL Earsdon
      Luke WANDLESS So - 6 ---------- NBL Earsdon
      John WANDLESS So - 3 ---------- NBL Earsdon
    Census  1861  Holywell, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • RG09/3847; f ; p ; 11 North West Row, Holywell, NBL.
      Thos. WANLASS Hd M 48 Coal Miner NBL Wallsend
      Isabella WANLASS Wi M 44 --------- DUR Jarrow
      Peter WANLASS So U 23 Coal Miner NBL Tynemouth
      Christopher WANLASS So U 19 Coal Miner NBL Earsdon
      Thomas WANLASS So U 18 Putter in coal mine NBL Earsdon
      Luke WANLASS So U 16 Putter in coal mine NBL Earsdon
      John WANLASS So U 13 Driver in coal mine NBL Earsdon
      Bateman WANLASS So U 10 Scholar NBL Earsdon
    Legatee  1862 
    • In the 'Log of Payements Made' for the Hartley Mine Disaster, Thomas was granted £1.0.0for the loss of his three sons. The log shows the payments as being 'Temporary with the knowledge that it may be deducted.'
    Census  1871  Holywell, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • RG10/5129 F33 P11 Enum. #53 8 Bates Cottages, Holywell, Seaton Delaval, Earsdon District, NBL.
      Thomas WANLESS Hd M 58 Coal Miner NBL Wallsend
      Isabella WANLESS Wi M 54 Coal Miner's Wife DUR Hebburn
    Census  1881  Hartley, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • RG11/5089, f 57, p 14 Hartley, NBL
      Thomas WANLESS Hd M 68 Coal Miner NBL Wallsend
      Isabella WANLESS Wi M 64 - DUR Hebron
    Census  1891  Old Hartley, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1] 
    • Thomas Wanless hd, wid'r, 78, retired coal miner, NBL Wallsend
      --next house is son Bateman
    Died  Yes, date unknown 
    Person ID  I1297  5.2: Thomas Wandless & Isabella Robson
    Last Modified  01 Dec 2007 
     
    Family  Isabella Robson,   b. Abt 1817, Hebburn, Durham, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1887, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  20 Jun 1835  Longbenton, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2] 
    Children 
     1. Thomas Wanless,   b. 1836, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1842, Holywell, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Peter Wanless,   b. Abt 1838, Earsdon, Northumberland, England (probably Holywell) Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. May 1910, Holywell, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Elizabeth Wanless,   b. Abt 1840, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     4. Christopher Wanless,   b. Abt 1842, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Jan 1862, Hartley, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. Thomas Wanless,   b. Abt 1844, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Jan 1862, Hartley, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Luke Wanless,   b. 1845, Holywell, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Dec 1922, Backworth, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. John Wanless,   b. Abt 1848, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 Jan 1862, Hartley, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     8. Bateman Wanless,   b. 1851, Earsdon, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified  06 Jul 2005 
    Family ID  F417  Group Sheet
     
  • Notes 
    • The original creator of this tree, Doris Farley, originally had Thomas's parents as John Wandless & Jane Barron. However, we have seen no evidence to suggest that Jane Barron was in the Wallsend area. The 1851 census for her (married) family shows her born in Sedgefield, which corresponds to her christening record; she married at Sunderland, and all of her children as far as we know were born in the Monkwearmouth/Southwick area. She seems to be firmly cemented into the line of the Hartburn-area Wandlasses.

      Then we thought that this Thomas was the son of John Wanless and Jane Rodison/Rogerson, baptized at Wallsend in 1813, but another candidate has come forward for that spot - another Thomas also born 1813 Wallsend, whose father is listed as John in his marriage to Ellen Scott in 1837. Plus he gives his children the middle name Simpson, which was Jane Rodison's first husband's name.

      So...this Thomas, who must be connected to the line of George Wanless and Elizabeth Bateman (because he names his son Bateman) must be the son of another son of George & Elizabeth. Holly's favorite candidates for this Thomas's parents are Thomas Wanless and Alice Turnbull, in Ken & Colin's database - they had a son Thomas baptized in Wallsend in 1820 along with his sister. He could have been born in 1813 and baptized later when she was; this was fairly common, and there is no record of him dying young in Wallsend and no other info on what happened to him. Note the use of the name Christopher in this family, which corresponds to Alice Turnbull's father Christopher.
      Note also that he baptised his first son Thomas on the same day in Newcastle St Nicholas as his presumed brother George baptised *his* son Thomas. I doubt this is coincidence - the baptisms are recorded right after each other, and neither man lived in St. Nicholas parish, so they must have agreed to meet there & do the baptisms at the same time.
     
  • Sources 
    1. [S8] Census, 1891, British Isles, RG12/ 4236/ 4/ 1 (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S5] Parish register.
      20 Jun 1835 Thomas Wanless = Isabell Robson. Both otp, both marked, witnesses Peter Robson, Joseph Smith

  

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